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Can, for 11:55, I say "li gai pini'u remu"? At its most basic and unspecific, can I use "point negative 25"?Also, how does "ki'o" (the grouping of three decimals) work in decimals?Can I use "ki'o" in hexadecimal? If so, what does it mean?Last, if I say "pa ki'o pamu" what does it mean? Where does the zero go? What about "pi paki'opamu"? Or "pa pi ki'opamu"?
Can, for 11:55, I say "li gai pini'u remu"? At its most basic and unspecific, can I use "point negative 25"?
Also, how does "ki'o" (the grouping of three decimals) work in decimals?
Can I use "ki'o" in hexadecimal? If so, what does it mean?
Last, if I say "pa ki'o pamu" what does it mean? Where does the zero go? What about "pi paki'opamu"? Or "pa pi ki'opamu"?
i'm not an expert on hexadecimals, but:ki'o works like this:ki'o => 1000re ki'o => 2000re ki'o pa => 2001re ki'o pa re => 2012re ki'o pa re ci => 2123re ki'o pa ki'o re ci => 2001023so the numbers after the ki'o fill up the space from the right sidepi pa ki'o pa mu => 0.10015 (i believe)pa pi ki'o pa mu => 1.0015 (i believe)
i'm not an expert on hexadecimals, but:
ki'o works like this:
ki'o => 1000re ki'o => 2000re ki'o pa => 2001re ki'o pa re => 2012re ki'o pa re ci => 2123re ki'o pa ki'o re ci => 2001023
so the numbers after the ki'o fill up the space from the right side
pi pa ki'o pa mu => 0.10015 (i believe)pa pi ki'o pa mu => 1.0015 (i believe)
... "re pi mu cacra", possibly?
"cacra be li re pi mu" is better.
>>504 I would go with a conversion, because the second terbri of [zo cacra] is a duration, where the first one is just "X1 is an hour".I guess it can be thought of as "two and a half type of hours".
>>504
I would go with a conversion, because the second terbri of [zo cacra] is a duration, where the first one is just "X1 is an hour".
I guess it can be thought of as "two and a half type of hours".
the trick is, that the x1 of cacra is the thing that is x2 hours long, so {li re pi mu se cacra} or {cacra li re pi mu} is the best way of saying it.if you say {re pi mu mei cacra} it means, that there are 2.5 things that are one (unless specified otherwise) hour in duration - that is, if your conversation partner won't hit you over the head for using a non-full number with mei ... even though that may make sense in some context? i have to ponder this :)
Can "pe'a" be put right after LO as a way of collectively modifying the following tanru? Example:lo pe'a cilce risna
Can "pe'a" be put right after LO as a way of collectively modifying the following tanru? Example:
lo pe'a cilce risna
>>516I would imagine so...yes.
>>516
I would imagine so...yes.
i've done this kind of thing often, so yes.
... "lo la .aris. kanla" is grammatical but "lo le nixli ku kanla" is not?
Both are grammatical.
Can "fai" be used without "jai"?
Yes:ko'a broda fai ko'e = ko'e jai broda fai ko'a
Yes:
ko'a broda fai ko'e = ko'e jai broda fai ko'a
Can "cu" be used more than once like this:mi sepi'o da cu broda gi'e seka'a de cu brode
Can "cu" be used more than once like this:
mi sepi'o da cu broda gi'e seka'a de cu brode
No, after "gi'e" the selbri must follow directly, no intervening terms.But with "ge" it is possible:mi ge sepi'o da cu broda gi seka'a de cu brode
No, after "gi'e" the selbri must follow directly, no intervening terms.
But with "ge" it is possible:
mi ge sepi'o da cu broda gi seka'a de cu brode
>>498No intervening terms; does that include sumtcita? Is "... gi'e seka'a de brode" also ungrammatical?
>>498
No intervening terms; does that include sumtcita? Is "... gi'e seka'a de brode" also ungrammatical?
>>500 Yes.All the terms preceding the first selbri are shared by the two connected sebri, so if the second selbri was allowed to have its own preceding terms, that would break the symmetry of the connective, because the first selbri couldn't have its own terms in such position. <shared-terms> <selbri-1> <terms-1> gi'e <selbri-2> <terms-2> vau <shared-terms>
>>500
Yes.
All the terms preceding the first selbri are shared by the two connected sebri, so if the second selbri was allowed to have its own preceding terms, that would break the symmetry of the connective, because the first selbri couldn't have its own terms in such position.
<shared-terms> <selbri-1> <terms-1> gi'e <selbri-2> <terms-2> vau <shared-terms>
... "ju'e"? Can it connect either sumti or selbri?
Like any other member of selma'o JOI, it can connect two sumti or two tanru-units, yes.
>>496What is the strong point of "ju'e"? I can't seem to find any explanation or example of it in CLL. What is the diffrence between "lo narju joi plise" and "lo narju ju'e plise"?
>>496
What is the strong point of "ju'e"? I can't seem to find any explanation or example of it in CLL. What is the diffrence between "lo narju joi plise" and "lo narju ju'e plise"?
When two (or more) sequential actions/events are connected with GIhA/JA/etc., is it always desirable that their order be made explicit with PU?
It depends on how much clarity is needed or desired. It's up to the speaker how vague or how precise they want to be.
Can "doi ..." be part of a prenex, when it is intended to be part of the whole sentence itself? Example:doi .aris. lo cabdei zo'u do cinmo ma
Can "doi ..." be part of a prenex, when it is intended to be part of the whole sentence itself? Example:
doi .aris. lo cabdei zo'u do cinmo ma
It can appear there, yes, but it is not really "part of the prenex". Free modifiers, such as vocatives, attach to the preceding word, or they can also appear at the beginning of a whole utterance, as in this case.
When connecting sentences with "fi'o ..." instead of a BAI, does it still need to be followed by "bo"?
Yes, and for the same reason.
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